yep thats right and no im not crazy i got sent their for being gay yep it is one of those stupid gay detoxic camps i had to stay their for three days why i was not on for a while i have to go in the morning
i have to go to these because i love a girl now how is this right im not even suppose to be on this site but right now i dont give a crap about wat they think.....
ugh...
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Why the heck are you in a gay detox place? Did your parents make you go there? Ugh...
Yeah, that's right. That's how you cure homosexuality alright. Degrade and tell homosexuals that they're vile and not right until they finally kill themselves. They'll never learn that it isn't something that can be "cured."
WELL i have to go se a shrink everyday this is not my first time i got sent to a shrink last time it is because my best friend killed her self because she was sent to one of these just like you said up their it has already happened my life is so much fun yay NO
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I hope you pull through okay. I'm surprised no one else has posted anything for support. C'mon, people! Do you not understand? People die in this places. Seriously, they die!
yeah well i just came back a couple of min. ago yeah that was fun i have to live with my dad now me and mom just cant get along right now so yeah she ignores me alot now and that really hurts you know
i think thats wat hurts the most its because i care wat she thinks
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I hate it when people use God to exercise hate. Christianity is a religion of love, forgiveness, and acceptance, not of hate and bigotry. Those "Christians" give the rest of us a bad name.
Oh my god, I didn't even know there is a 'gay detoxic camp' o___O Where do you live? I couldn't imagine such buildings in germany, the country where I live. ...wow...I'm really surprised and shocked O___O;;
and...what are those people doing???!!! This is discrimination!!!! I can't believe this is still happening nowadays. Grah! I HATE such people too!!! ๒___๓ *hugs darkside* XD
You're right, Mirai. I was just talking about this with one of my friends the other day. Most of these places are run by the catholic church. They believe that homosexuality is a choice and that homosexuals have been coaxed into it by Satan. Blah, blah, blah...
The way they go about "converting" someone "back" to heterosexuality is by making them realize they are a sinner. They repeatedly tell them that they're going to hell if they don't change. They force them to write out lengthy Bible verses. Needless to say, they also do other things there that I haven't described. The places are inhumane and border on cruel and unusual. Honestly, I have no idea how they remain open.
this is....I'm really speechless about that...O____O;; Didn't know the church is so...evil, because my parents don't want anything to do with church (cause they're chinese...). But this is really....*is still shocked about that*
The church itself means well, but the people are still human. I'm Christian and what they do disgusts me. I can only forgive them because they're human and they don't realize the evil they're doing. I try to control my anger because of the issue. Anger will just corrupt me like it's done to them. Nothing good comes from it.
I've only ever heard of such things in fanfics and the like...you're showing unimagineable strength by just being here and talking with us about this, darkside. thank you for being strong <3
that's a good point, Nobody...for the most part, the people who send homosexuals to camps and wards and psychiatrists usually mean well...they're just afraid for the ones they love and think they're heading down an "evil" path.
fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate leads to suffering...
it's not fair...but humans rarely are.
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Wow... I didn't even know those places really existed. I bet they're not anything like on the movie "But I'm a Cheerleader". lol
Anyways, I know it's not funny and all. That really sucks. I'm sure my g-ma woulda sent me to some shrink or something but instead she just pretends like I never told her and I just never brought it up again. If she wouldn't listen to me the first time, I'm not wasting my time doing it again.
Stay strong darkside! I know it must be hard. *hugs*
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yeah weird huh my friend said your life sounds like south of nowhere
I had the same thought when I read this and saw your icon. So sorry, babe!
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Shifu: If the instument is broken, the music will be sour.
Daniel: Theh music does not play the musician.
Shifu: Normally there is truth in that.
Daniel: Really? Good. Because I really didn't have any idea what I was talking about.
XD there you go - now we all know how to save ourselves from that situation if it ever arises in any of our lives....just make out with, or make fun of people and they'll just kick you out, lol
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XD there you go - now we all know how to save ourselves from that situation if it ever arises in any of our lives....just make out with, or make fun of people and they'll just kick you out, lol
Bible-hugging pussies!
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I'm glad that this turned into a positive for you. And I am sorry about your mom, but someday, hopefully not to far away, she will understand and show her love to you again. But, for now, try not to care to much,just keep telling yourself in your mind when the time comes, she will understand and love you again. I am in a GSA at Acalanes and since I'm still new into the commmunity, I talk to some GSA members a lot andtheir coming out's and some of them told me how it sometimes take a while to have their family understand and love them again. And how sometimes the reason they might hate you is not because they're afraid of losing you to "evil" but they blame themselves, but soon they understand that it's no ones fault and they love you again, realizing they have to let you love who you love. I went through depression last year in my freshman year and I came to understanding a lot. And it was my first time being in a GSA, but I loved it. And I think if, soon, we have GSA's over the world maybe the hatred will stop and they'll be more accepting and we'll win. And we are making progress with GSA's. Belive me, I worry too and can understand your fear a bit. i have a girlfriend in Georgia, and she's a shemale, and I worry for her safety a lot. More so, because she was already raped three times, and impregnated twice when she was only 3 by her uncles (2) along with her sister ( both were impregnated). The third rape was her favorite techer, who is now in jail, last year or 2 yrs ago. But, continue being strong. And finding positives in life. Best of luck, and spon everything will be fine.
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I wish i could support you but i can hardly find my word. First, i agree with the others : this is no illness or sin or anything. I'm not gay myself, and i had one bad experience with a dude who was. But, it's like hating someone because he likes ramen! C'mon ! I would like to give good advice too ... but I don't know well how things work in your country. Maybe there is an association who can defend your right. I mean, a gaydesintoxcamp? There are people fighting those ugly things, and not just here on the internet. If they don't listen to you alone, then make your voice louder with others behind you. But i know how hard it is to make people change their mind sometimes. Keep hopping, one day it gets better. Meanwhile, be yourself and remember you're never alone.
nah look its cool the older i get i come to understand that not everyone will love me buts its cool i have people who care about me and thats all you will ever need and i mean this place you can tell people wats on your mind and they will accept you here so thats another way i got over this whole thing i just feel bad for people who dont have what i have
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I'm glad thinks are getting better for you. Let's hope, i'm sure one day cute faeries will rule the world and we'll all live just for love ... yeah let's hope XDDDD Or else, guys we can always drink beers till we can see them ^^
Drinking only leads to more problems. Live life the way it came and don't change it with mind alternating substances. You can't get to the greener side of the hill if your stuck on the brown side drinking all day.
If your going to tell me other wise then I recommend picking up a pencil for once and draw what you want to see not what you can see.
Seeing isn't believing, believing is seeing. <--- From Christmas movies
heee interesting quote ... Well i'm sorry if you took me, like, seriously. I was just joking, but maybe it wasn't that funny. You're right though, i can tell you the hill is getting darker if you drink too much. A lot darker.
its funny they say they love you no matter what but then you tell them who you are because you dont want to hide anymore who you truely are but you tell them and they still say they love you but then when you look at them in their eyes you see hurt disappointment and that right their hurts
in a way i am the same and then other ways im not i change everyone does and some people dont like change because it scares them
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And yet change is a inevitability about life. You can't live without change or changing or being changed. Likewise, others around you are always changing too. As is the world we live in. The world changes and those who stagnate are left behind.
o_0 WTF just read the post....I am glad that you came out a stonger person because of it Darkside...That which does not kill you makes you stronger or Cripples you for life. But yeah Nobody is correct the more things change the more they stay the same and the more they stay the same the more they change. I can't believer that there is still that type of Archaic methods still in practice..well this it the Catholic church we are talking about who finally acknowledge that the world is not the center of the Universe or Flat in 1996. that is a Rant for another time. I am glad that your dad is so supporting of you. well I hope the Gods and Goddesses smile on you after that.
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Darkside, I'm glad you managed to get through that okay. And in a way, you should count yourself lucky that you were in a program that would kick you out. A lot of the more extreme ones aren't so forgiving...
I've heard stories, some second hand, some straight from people sent to centers like the one you went to. They use tactics like sleep deprivation, starvation, isolation, shock therapy, aversion therapy... Some of what they do is downright torture, and they hide it all behind closed doors and signed contracts by parents to somehow keep what they do to these kids secret from the law.
It literally makes me sick to think about it... That this kind of hate, this evil, is obscured by a veil of love (such as "Love in Action" one of the most well-known, and one of the most horrible of these anti-gay camps). As much as things have improved for people like us in the last few decades, it reminds me how much work is still there to be done... how much useless hate and misunderstanding and ignorance still exists in the world.
I'm just so glad you managed to avoid the really bad stuff and that you didn't let them affect you.
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All I got to say is that being gay is as much of a "disease" as being a republican, a christian or a gamer is. Never EVER forget that! It's the truth, no matter what some people might say. Cheers to you darkside for holding out, I hope you never have to go through something like that ever again. Forced conversion makes me sick to the gut, regardless of the underlying intentions.
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I heard about those places. I kind of forced myself to forget they existed. But, of course...
Ugh. That's disgusting. "Hey, lets start criticizing the hell out of gay kid's lifestyles! Oh, THAT'S a sure way to straighten 'em out!" Damn. I find it funny that, by doing so, they're rounding up all the gay kids into one place. Pfft, that's a sure-fire way to make them stop. I think there's more of a chance that I'd get a girlfriend there than 'become straight'.
I find it sad that they feel the need to "save people from sin". It's not half as bad as their perception of it is. Religion can totally take control of people's minds, causing them to lose sight of anything else, and become focused and completely attached to whatever truth someone fed them through a book. Nothing against religion, just the people who take it to such extreme levels as to try to change the lives of those around them to fit their molds of what they think is acceptable in society.
I like your friend though. Now i know what to do if i get sent to one of those anti-gay programs- make out with as many girls as possible. Ahaahhaha.
I heard about those places. I kind of forced myself to forget they existed. But, of course...
Ugh. That's disgusting. "Hey, lets start criticizing the hell out of gay kid's lifestyles! Oh, THAT'S a sure way to straighten 'em out!" Damn. I find it funny that, by doing so, they're rounding up all the gay kids into one place. Pfft, that's a sure-fire way to make them stop. I think there's more of a chance that I'd get a girlfriend there than 'become straight'.
I find it sad that they feel the need to "save people from sin". It's not half as bad as their perception of it is. Religion can totally take control of people's minds, causing them to lose sight of anything else, and become focused and completely attached to whatever truth someone fed them through a book. Nothing against religion, just the people who take it to such extreme levels as to try to change the lives of those around them to fit their molds of what they think is acceptable in society.
I like your friend though. Now i know what to do if i get sent to one of those anti-gay programs- make out with as many girls as possible. Ahaahhaha.
-- Edited by wearetheexiled at 07:18, 2007-12-29
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-- Edited by wearetheexiled at 07:20, 2007-12-29
Very true, very true. The way to get kicked out is fun....MWAHAHA *looks aroundthen tries to play innocent* What?
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