or These words do not mean what most people seem to think they mean!
This has been bugging me for a while and I wanted to get it posted before I forgot
Liberal and Conservative these terms were meant to describe the size and reach of government. Liberal means big government with lots of oversight and regulations. Conservative means small government...yeah you get the idea
The other stuff that gets mixed in is a lot of hot buttons and buzz words I recently found myself thinking about my politics outside these things mostly to find out where I really stood on the political spectrum
the big thing people are talking about now is the economy right? well from what I've heard and read the problems now was caused by lenders approving loans that they should not have been this was indirectly attributed to the former presidents deregulation this did get me thinking if the oversight had been enforced perhaps things would not be so bad for us now
I began thinking about policemen if you take policeman off the street it makes it easier for people to break the law which they inevitably will. I see oversight as a kind of watchdog detouring people from breaking the law. you can't stop crime but you can stop criminals unless that criminal happens to be Dick Cheney (buh dum tis)
so in the end I figured out I was right were I always assumed the far left. huh. Works for me!
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..... acctually conservativ just means you dont wanna change anything and liberal .... well other than free i dont really know what it means ........ but i think you might be right on the oversight thingie though i dont really get it(maybe i do in which case i agree)
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well yes but also liberal (literal definition) means a lot of something when you use a liberal amount of salt while baking you don't measure it you just use a lot of f***ing salt
the Result is a terrible cake but damn good government. *nods sagely*
you have to admit that under the deregulation of industry under bush led in part to the current financial crisis. and having more control over private industry is a cornerstone of big government. but hey I'm still for capitalism. but I'm also for child labor laws... and antitrust laws... and a fair minimum wage.
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Anger, Jealousy, Loneliness, these are the emotions that consume ones heart and destroy ones soul, my heart cannot soar for it is eternally wingless...
Wow. Be careful. if you start speaking about politics. I may become violent... No, I am kidding.
Well, I think that a "wild" liberalism is not a good thing. The recent economic crisis is caused by people who were able to do whatever they wanted since they make money. They did ... it went wrong ... and here we are. I agree with you by saying if there were more regulaton it would not have happen.
I live in a place very open-mided about politics. So i heard and spoke a lot about that. and ...sorry if I shock some people.... I think that socialist and communist ideas have good parts IF they are applied in a good way. But until now no communist governement has succed. So liberlism seems to be the best way to lead a country. But socialism seems to be the real social defender. I say that because in France (sorry it is where i live) all the social realisations have been made by the socialist group. For exemple, i think about the legalization of the contraception or the PACS ( a law which for example allows homosexual people to have the same rights than "legally married" people)...
But i think that I am not in the subject here...
I agree with you aout the policeman thing. I have noticed that more there are risks of criminal acts more there are policemen in the streets. But more tere are policemen less people will try to break the law so less policemen are needed. Right ?
Oh I think I spoke a lot of things but hich are not in the subject.
-- Edited by Major-HXH on Friday 19th of June 2009 09:26:49 PM
Communism itself is good stuff, but it is a fairy tale, people would take too long (if ever) to adapt to the idea that doctors, lawyers, accountants, etc. shouldn't make more than anyone else and vice versa.
Where I work, I deal with a lot of hardcore conservative people. I mean, these people are disgusting. Obama gets elected and everyone starts buying up guns and ammo, which is damn difficult to get these days because of it. Now, you'd like to hope that these people are just buying it because Obama might push some anti-gun laws and they'd like to get what they can while they can... but this ain't the case. A good portion of them are stockpiling this stuff because they are waiting for a revolution to start.
I used to think I could deal with the fact that people have differing opinions, but these people are disgusting. When Bush was re-elected, liberals started saying "I think I'm going to leave the country. When Obama was elected, conservatives said "We should separate from the union". (Note: I live in New York, this ain't a Red State) These people didn't give Obama one day in office before they started blaming him, screw that.
Bah, that was just me venting. Listening to these people day-in and day-out gets to you. I also realize that all conservatives aren't like this, but anyone I've met who admit to being conservative, are.
In the United States (and other places), we have to come to terms with the fact that our government will have complete turn-arounds every few years, but you can't go screaming about bloody revolution when it isn't your sides' turn.
sooo much text hard for small brain to digest it all!
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That's because you're using the wrong organ for the wrong job. Brain thinks, stomach and intestinal tract digest. Also, text has very little nutritional value, although it is low in calories.
It's funny because in France there is an expresion which is "dévorer un livre". It means ltteraly "to devour a book" but in fact it means that the book is so fascinating that we want to read it as quick as possible. I don't know if there is the same expression in Englsh.
Anyway.It is interresting what you wrote about Barrack Obama because in France we (I mean a lot of people) was very happy that he was elected. I even heard some people said : "Look at the Americans. They have elected an African-American for the first time in their history. That's a great event. Now look at us (French), we elected a Smurf while we could have elected a woman for the first time in France."
It's strange but I think a lot of people reall respect Americans for having elected a Black man to the Presidency. And they are waiting a lot from him.
haha there is a dutch term for devouring a book ^^ means the same as in french ...... acctually i think it exists in quite a lot of languages(this has to be spelled wrong)
yea ppl over here where also where like w00t they have a black president!!!!
but i think ppl should wait and see wat happens and not be happy just because hes black .... i mean progress i usually good but the man can still screw up.
and i think communism needs to be combined with anarchy to work ........ a friend of mine had the idea we should raise the next generation as communists and then kill everybody whos older than them ....... we agreed though that killing half the population would be bad.
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Durig the Paris pride I have seen some people with Obama's portrait. I think there is some French who would like that Americans lend him to us... I think I could agree with them.
