How old were you?+highschool

Wolfie · Lurker

How old were you?+highschool

gappiee · Guru

well first of hello ^^
...... and i dont think i can help with any of that =O i didnt date in highschool ..... nor do i date now (girls are scary you know =S)
but i dont think there is a set age to start a first relationship i think it differs a lot from person to person. And i think being gay shouldnt influence it too much =/ then again that might depend on how open you are about it which kinda depends on the people arround you (i think, im making this up as im writing it so pll who actually know about this stuff dont hesitate to correct me)

Doc · Love Freak

i didnt date in highschool ... nor do i date now

so yeah I'm about as much help as a sack of potatoes. for me highschool was a personal hell I couldn't wait to escape.

and then I got out into the real world ...

SPOILER ALERT

Spoiler: ITS EXACTLY THE SAME

Hehe

Wolfie · Lurker

Well I'm not ready to date, (yet) but I'm very curious on others input. Thank for trying though, these forums are becoming loney, *throws you cookies*, also (I posted this on off topic but who cares) have you ever misdialed a help line and called a phone porn place, (I was trying to help my dad with his raido)?

Wolfie · Lurker

Doc, does the world suck that much?

Doc · Love Freak

Depends when you ask me I'll give you a slightly different answer

but mostly it breaks down like this. this is not a perfect world and it never will be

The world sucks and it will always be pressing down trying to crush you

the point of living is to keep living if you give up then its all over

my point is never give up and try to have an indomitable will

you pick your battles and pick yourself up after a bloody nose

would I like it if that wasn't the case and the world was mostly sunshine and rainbows? sure I would

you know what else I'd like? a F***ing Unicorn

Wolfie · Lurker

I think everyone would like a unicorn... Tell us the story of your life. What makes you who you are? How has your life been? I study philosophy a lot, sometimes I think cynically, often actually,

Spoiler: I still make an effort to make the world a better place and make people happier. I know this is misplaced optimism. People destroy, lie, hurt, rape, kill, steal, hate, and generally f things up...and the world can be violent horrible bloody mess...Sometimes I grow depressed, for example when I found that sOmeone close to me was molested as a child, I then grew furious and sad which continued for weeks. I am lucky in my upbringing, My parents are accepting, they argue sometimes but are generally functional. I am taught to find my own values and to ask questions, not just agree with what ever thing are taught to me. Not many kids at my school like me, our school merged with another during middle school which was better. My life before that was less friendly, I had my friends and I fought and defended them, mostly all of my friends and I were outcasts (there were exceptions). I have had social difficulties in the past, shyness, and the fact that I was always somehow different, I was bright (er) which is odd for me to say. I buried myself in books, drawings, and greeted teachers with "How are you," and could have a adult conversation with parents. I spent a lot of time studying people around me, I understood emotions, after dealing with ADD (hyper observant) I could follow whole class discussions from what was in front of me to the corners of the room. But here was the problem, I spent my time listening, not speaking, only the quiet observer in the midst of class, I could not speak properly to my peers after a certain age...kindergarten to 2nd grade, speaking = easy, but in 3rd grade, a thing called popularity, the worst social hierchary was formed. Kids started being cruel to people who were "different", this was a problem for me, I only grew angry when my friEnds were picked on. (I realized this is long and rambling, I typed this thourgh out the day, sorry,). When I was eleven I figured out I was gay, I wasn't bothered, I simply learned what I needed to know and moved on. I learned something, though being harrased and observing life, there are special people who simply want to help people and try to improve the world, they seem enlightened, and they truly understand people. I know the world is a dark cruel place but sometimes there are pinpoints of light. I keep a copy of "The Little Prince" under my pillow. I know the world can't be like that, I know theremare people who rip hopes and dreams apart whether physically are mentally or both. A cousin of mine does this with religion, trying to make anyone and everyone not of the social norm feel like #%^*.

In a way Doc, people here are kind of a pinpoint of light, people can come here. for help and be understood. I know you post on other topics a lot, talking about your own problems and helping people with their own. I hope you feel happy knowing that you've proably helped someone here with their troubles, it's a thing to be proud of People are capable of much cruelty, but, I hope, for I must hope, that this means people are also capable of incredible kindness I hope some of this babble made since, I'm sorry about thE space it took up and it's general hugeness, for HIV

-- Edited by Wolfie on Wednesday 20th of July 2011 06:09:37 AM

-- Edited by Wolfie on Wednesday 20th of July 2011 06:10:32 AM

Wolfie · Lurker

Gaahh! How do I edit posts? I need to kill some of this thing!!!! Ok! I cleaned up my mess!

-- Edited by Wolfie on Wednesday 20th of July 2011 06:11:50 AM

Wolfie · Lurker

And the spell check wrote "gay" instead of "gah" I fail when no sleep breaks me...

Doc · Love Freak

Helped others?
I sincerely doubt it

although I do like to hijack topics you're right

Doc · Love Freak

Feels like I cleared the room with my evilness

....

welp time to relax *pulls out my laptop and grab a soda from the fridge*

gappiee · Guru

O.O im gone for 3 days and this place comes alive =O

the world is only as evil as you see it =O.... although i kinda lost faith in humanity today

Doc · Love Freak

why?

Susanah · Master Member

gappiee wrote:
but i dont think there is a set age to start a first relationship i think it differs a lot from person to person

It does. I was in my first romantic relationship at the age of six, but that was also the only romantic relationship I've had, so...*shrug*

Also: yes the world is cruel, but some people are nice :)

gappiee · Guru

@Doc: you should keep up with the news some more =O some crazy guy in norway killed a lot of kids/young adults at a socialist summer camp for some retarded political reason

@Susanah good your alright =D ... and good your saying im right in a indirect way ^^ i like being right

Doc · Love Freak

wow.... uhhhhhhh

~hides from potential fallout~

Susanah · Master Member

We had gone to collect our dog after returning from Germany, and gran called us, telling us about the bombing. I sat pretty much glued to the television screen the rest of the evening =/

gappiee · Guru

i only heard what happened and i though: who could be so evil to kill people trying to have a good time in a harmless way =O
we've gone off topic quite a bit though i think we should try and answer wolfie's question =) ... and maybe if anyone feels the need start a new topic on this

Susanah · Master Member

.....I did. I answered Wolfie's question =)

gappiee · Guru

=) yes but we were straying of topic quite far, and i think we should keep some order here ^^

Susanah · Master Member

.....perhaps. Also Wolfie, yes I know all about the seeing your crush with someone else, also about having them talk to you about someone they really like with you, while you're just sitting there listening and thinking *damnit, why couldn't they like me instead* ^^;

-- Edited by Susanah on Saturday 30th of July 2011 10:13:37 AM

Wolfie · Lurker

It is kinda depressing, both the thing in Norway ( tell me more about that, please. On topic is good, but you can't say something like that and not tell more) and the crush thing, are we allowed to talk about both, world happenings, and the on topic part. For starters, people doing crack brained things like killing people, for stupid horrible reasons! I wish people could simply learn how to speak to each other and have debates, instead of proving all points with guns. Guns or logic... Seriously...

Well, on topic, crushes at my age do kinda suck. Susanah you're totally right. It seriously sucke to see your crush with *others*.
Also, how do you deal with stuff like this, I kinda deal with it by closing emotions off, and occasionally closing my eyes, because sometimes stuff bothers me, and sometimes it doesn't, and sometimes, when I'm unperpared I feel really sick, like butterflies in my stomach, except they have chainsaws that induce nausea. Do you ever have seriously $&@!y luck, such as crushing really badly on a twin, when it happens that the theater one I like so much just happens to be the straight one, while the other one is Bi. I haaaate my luck....
Well anyways, have a good day

Susanah · Master Member

Aaww, THAT must suck. I was crushing on a girl about two years ago - we were friendly but I did not dare to be too close to her for fear of making a fool of myself. I eventually got over the crush though, and a girl in my class who had become bestfriends with the one I was crushing on told me that three times my crush had seriously contemplated taking her own life, and would have had it not been for the two of them being so close. It tore my heart out because as I said, I hadn't dared to get close to her.

Also, on the topic of the Idiot, he is suspected to have been the sole person behind the bomb near the government prime building (I really can't remember what they actually call it^^) and the massacre on Utöya. The bomb blew about half an hour after most people in the building were off work, so few were killed in the explosion.

The shooting massacre was another thing - the jerk was dressed in police uniform, and had showed a fake ID that said he was police and said he was there to check safety and stuff. He was cleared and got on a boat out to the island. There, he called youth to him and shot them. He went around the island shooting everyone he saw, and apparently he had a cold expression - a witness even described it as looking like he enjoyed shooting the defenceless youth. I do not think I really knew anyone who was there, but I know some people who lost friends and family in this tragedy. Also, had it not been for two tensing/YMCA-YWCA festivals and a family holiday this summer I would have been there myself :S The summer camp was for members of a youth political party.

gappiee · Guru

=) i didnt say we should talk about other stuff anymore as i said we could start a new thread on stuff like that if there is a need to continue talking about it... although having two conversations at the same time is possible aswell i guess.

hmm i believe i dont have any valuable input on the topic though =/

Wolfie · Lurker

... I almost wish I could understand why people do this. In a way I do, due to a part of my mind being rather screwed up, in the cold, calculating sort of way. But I study philosophy, and by 6 I had most things sorted out, that no, to save my dear planet, I proably should not attempt to sterlize the human race through water sources (I tried to figure out the best way to save my beloved animal friends, from a race, I frankly, regarded stupid)
The reason I regarded people as stupid, was becuase of people like The Idiot. I have respect for people and animals around me, they are creatures of life and feeling, thing that show emotion, and I too am a creature of emotion, just like everything else.
But some people fail to see the humanity (I'll talk about just humans now) in other people.

I just heard about this guy after reading this forum from the raido, didn't he kill for some $&)&ed up reason, immigration I believe?
Can people learn how to debate civilly, in killing people, he decided that these people from diffent roots from him were somehow inferior? That because he believes something different, that it was okay to hurt others. That people being different then him made them less human, so his his actions were somehow justified?

Aren't most of these the basis of human actions against other people?

Did this make sense? Am I ranting too much? I am overly tired right now, therefore I felt all pissed at stupid people being stupid.
I'll Proably try to be more on topic later, while I'm not attempting to understand dumb@$$ actions
Also, Susanah, thanks for talking, I think we're all glad you're okay. Good night

Doc · Love Freak

philosophy is nice but sadly useless against people who are A. dumb enough to believe believe their beliefs make them better than everyone else. and or B. insane enough to do something cruel for whatever they can use to justify it.

some people are just cruel or insane. yet we cannot stop them with logic and trying to do so just wastes time.

I wish I had something positive to end with something nice and comforting to ease your mind.

but really the only thing I could come up with is that not everyone's like that and you should befriend those that aren't

on a side note ya know one easy way to tell if someone you're talking to is a complete tool?

if most of their beliefs on life or politics or whatever go something like... "some people say neh the others say meh I think the answers... (some statement in the middle)"

there is no middle ground when one side is completely wrong

for example.

Homosexual people in general

if the person believes that they are different from straight people in any way shape or form or should be treated differently in any way shape or form

they are wrong

no debates

no middle ground

wrong

am I saying never comprimise?

no comprimise is a decent tool to get some of the idiots to shut up

that doesn't mean their not still idiots

and it certainly doesn't mean their not still wrong

-- Edited by Doc on Tuesday 2nd of August 2011 03:06:20 PM

Wolfie · Lurker

*stares* whoah...... What would you say the jerk - friendly understanding people, 80 % jerk 18 friendly 2 reaaallly awesome?

Doc · Love Freak

I dunno maybe

Susanah · Master Member

I think I agree with you on that statement Doc, of course with the things actually debatable where one is not necessarily wrong let out

Wolfie · Lurker

This whole topic is imteresting regarding philosophy... I think I ought to go spam the C-box... I try not to think to hard (potential depression) when something is already worrying my mind.

So, tell me, how's your life these days? It seems that even if you're having troubles of your own, my mom's back will be better by the time you check the forms. I think a refreshing change of topics is in order, talk about the oriangel if you feel like it, or tell me about your life is in general.
School starts in about two week and a few days, so I decided that worries and alll, I should be ready to suck it up and get on with it. Yup! I like to talk about things still, just cause life seems less nervewracking when I know what's coming. Do any of you watch the nude sic you with a needle like me?
Have a good day!

Susanah · Master Member

Wolfie wrote:
Do any of you watch the nude sic you with a needle like me?

......huh?

Anyway: me, I'm startig school on the 22nd, driving down to the new apartment the 17th. I still have white paint in my hair after working on the South wall of the house, and are bugging my parents to be allowed to invite some friends over for a movie night. Thinking this new change will be interesting and fun, and wonder how my feelings will develop when moving away from my crush, hopefully I'll get over her soon^^

....so yeah, pretty much normal life =) *hugs wolfie*

Wolfie · Lurker

Oh! What movies are you gonna watch? We're both getting over a crush, high five! Does your new apartment seem like it will be a good home? Is it far away from where you currently reside?... Also to clarify my "interesting" spelling error, I was randomly asking if you ever watch the nurse sic you with q needle. I hate needles *shudders* I love all manners of sharp things, except for needles... Most of the time I HAVE to watch the nurse sic it in... Yup...
Do you have any pets?
Cheerio

Wolfie · Lurker

Also, I'm starting HS a week after you start HS(?) so... I guess I'm just lucky?
Cheers

Susanah · Master Member

I actually have no problem with most needles, as I like to sew. However - if they're going under the skin, i hate them, and I'm really afraid. I also like many other sharp objects, and I absolutely LOVE knives... =D I usually play a song in my mind or on a music player or I might sing (and look away, of course) as the nurse sticks the needle in.

Well, as Gaby helped me realize, I most definitely am not over my crush, and not sure if I'm in the process of either. I asked a happy couple about it (they had mentioned in a talkshop that we could speak to them in private afterwards), but got nothing new and they didn't even understand the situation...they thought being with my crush hurt me in some way, but I never felt that. So, they said I should probably distance myself from her, and I AM moving a 6+ hour train ride away to go to school^^;

I have seen photos of my new apartment and like it, and both my dad and flatmate have seen it and say it is a good apartment =)

I also have a dog (cavalier king charles spaniel) who is almost 8 years old, and we are actually allowed to keep pets in the apartment so long as we discuss it with the owner of the house first =D

Perhaps =) I will start my second year of 'videregaaende', which is something close to the equivalent of highschool, I THINK^^;

Cheers, Sheepie =D

Wolfie · Lurker

Ahh... Sewing is good, (I need to learn more) but the prospect of a needle sicing (is that a word?) makes be cringe... >Did the couple mean that you feel pain when you're around your crush? I imgagine you're a lot better at this then me if you don't feel akward/ unhappy/ uncomfortable/ pained around your crush. Does your crush know that you crush on her? Mine proably figured it out... Failed! It's good you have a new friendly home, also, doesn't Norway have awesome healthcare (random)? Ohh..dogs, I love dogs! We have two bichons (http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bichon_Frise) my dog's name is Yoshi... They're getting older too, but I'll enjoy them while I still can. Highschool is starting really soonish, and I just made it thourgh a 7 hour workday on 4 hours of sleep. Yep. (I don't get paid, mind you, but work is work), Yoshi just got groomed, HE'S SO FLUFFY!!! Just thought you should know. Yup. Am I ever allowed to ask you questions about Norway? You can ask me any questions about the U.S.A not that it's paticulary interesting. I got to go to Sweden and Finland once, with my Finn friend, but not Norway... Sigh... Europe is awesome... I hope you get to keep your doggy woggy friend, Cavaliers are considered loyal and great compainions.... Squeeee, sooo cuuuttee (can you see who had dog obsessions when little). I congratulate you on your abiltlity to type long Norwegian (spelled wrong, faaaiiilll) words... I hope they're Norwegian. I also fail to understand who this Gaby person is. Yup. How was your day today? :)

Susanah · Master Member

Needle sicing?

It seemed that the couple meant me feeling unhappy being around her. Actually it's more like I love to be around her, pretty much crave seeing her whenever I can, and get unhappy when I think about the fact that we will never be together in that sense (but only when I'm not with her). I thought I was over it, and when asked if I liked someone that way (she was present) I told them I was in the process of getting over someone, and I thought I was. So she doesn't know that I still like her (I didn't either until my friend Gaby (yes, he's a boy) helped me realize I wasn't nearly over her yet).

Yes, Norway has a pretty good health care system, and we all pay higher taxes so we won't ruin our economy to keep a family member in hospital when they need it.

Dogs are awesome =D I am also a dog lover, and I think all dogs are cute (yes, ALL dogs, even the one revered as the world's ugliest dog). Also, I know what a Bichon Frise is, as one of my close friends love them =) ...and YAY, fluffy doggy =D

Gratz with the getting through that 7hour-day =D

Aww, you're lucky to have visited Finland. I've always wanted to go there (well, at least for like 6-7 years)
Also, grammar has always come pretty easy for me (in most cases, at least)...and yeah, the long word you didn't know (was it videregaaende?) is Norwegian^^;

My last week or so has been kinda stressfull with all the packing and such (I move tomorrow), but my aunt and some of my sister's friends (they're kinda my friends too) visited, one of them just to see me before I left, actually =)

How have you been? (this question goes for everyone, of course^^;)

*huggles all*

gappiee · Guru

=S what a lot to catch up on ... it seems the forums get active every time im away for a bit ^^
i disagree on the somethings just being wrong i mean i agree that some things are ethically wrong but its always possible to make an argument for them
... its a big part of philosophy to think about things that are considered bad by most and do mental experiments with them.

... hmm on the needles thing, nope im not afraid of needles im just unable to knowingly hurt myself so i couldnt give myself an injection ... but im fine with other ppl doing that......... for some reason.

hmm i havent been to either finland or norway .... ive been to danmark and sweden though ^^ i love it there i think imma go to scandinavia again as soon as im done with school
eeh and im very well =D

Wolfie · Lurker

Ohhhh... Isn't Sweden awesome? The air tastes nice, also friendly pigeons. Sorry for not coming back here, I had a #%*^ty week, no other way to describe it. I talked about it in the c-box, but death of a pet always makes me feel crappy for a long time. Yea, what were we talking about? How was your weeks. I start highschool on Thursday. Yup. Nomnomnomom, I think I'm done now, sorry for my briefness.

Cheers

Susanah · Master Member

Gappiee: hmm, weird with the needles thi9ng...I would never knowingly hurt myself with a needle (I have tried with a pair of scissors 'cuz I wondered if it would hurt), I HATE needles piercing my skin although I guess one does use a needle when getting a piercibng, and UI even pay for that, so...uhm...(wanna get more piercings =D ) COME TO US, GAPPIEE! =D

Wolfie: Too bad about your pet =( I still miss our old dog Dana, even though she died over eight years ago...
...are you looking forward to school starting, though? I actually have a fifty-minute walk to and from school, riding my bike takes 15-20 minutes the downhill way^^

LadyTwilight · Senior Member

Susanah wrote:
It seemed that the couple meant me feeling unhappy being around her. Actually it's more like I love to be around her, pretty much crave seeing her whenever I can, and get unhappy when I think about the fact that we will never be together in that sense (but only when I'm not with her). I thought I was over it, and when asked if I liked someone that way (she was present) I told them I was in the process of getting over someone, and I thought I was. So she doesn't know that I still like her (I didn't either until my friend Gaby (yes, he's a boy) helped me realize I wasn't nearly over her yet).

*doubletriplehugs, is also currently in a situation like this*

I wish you the best of my support, Wolfie (though I'm not around here often). May you find the fortitute to crest the sadness in time, without losing the important things.

Gappiee: I'm strange with needles. When I'm having blood taken it's a lot easier for me to stare at the needles and watch them draw out blood...

Susanah · Master Member

Thanks, Lady =)

I HATE all needles supposed to go under my skin, so I sing or listen to music or something^^; I also always look in the opposite direction of the needle